INTEGRATIVE TRIANGLE - Freud, Reich and Jung

Overview

- Freud, Reich and Jung as internal objects - how do they (and their r’ships) work within us

- an holistic perspective on dis-integration - the triangle Freud, Reich and Jung

- examples from supervision: Freud, Reich and Jung in three practitioners

- applying the triangle

- integration - some key principles

In this talk I am interested in how our therapeutic ancestors live within us, how they contribute to our sense of integration or dis-integration as persons and as therapists. How do they inspire, influence or obstruct the project of psychotherapy integration ? What actually am I talking about when I say: I try to integrate Freud, Reich and Jung in my work ?

I have never met them, I have no direct knowledge of them as people, I have read their writing (and I am fortunate enough to be able to read the original rather than the translation by others, which especially in Freud’s case makes a considerable difference). What we think we do and what we say we do as therapists can be a long way away from what we actually do. It is inevitable that the same caveat applies to Freud’s, Jung’s, Reich’s writing. So I know what they wrote and thought about what they did as therapists. But what claim can I lay to ‘integrating Freud, Reich and Jung in my work’?

The only way I can talk about them and about ‘integrating’ them is through acknowledging that they are fantasies, and that they are internal objects. When I talk about Freud, Reich, Jung I am talking about MY fantasies, about them as MY internal objects.

Freud, Reich, Jung as fantasies, as internal objects:

  • what we forget when we read them (and their theories) literally:
  • they were each wounded and conflicted people with inherently conflicted theories
  • they changed their theories as they developed (contradicting later what they had said earlier)
  • their theories were partial translations of their experience with their clients
  • their theories had a psychological function for them, in relation to their own woundedness (partly revealing / partly defensive)
  • we get selectively attracted to their writing/teaching through our fantasies and our own woundedness
  • we project the ‘solutions’ to our own woundedness into them
  • we therefore project our primary scenarios / complexes into them

Donald Meltzer, the Oxford psychoanalyst, is known for saying something to the effect of: “my clients/patients are not in therapy with me, they are in therapy with my internal objects”, and for himself he is specifically thinking of Daddy Sigmund (Freud) and Mummy Melanie (Klein).

According to Meltzer, your client’s unconscious does not feel contained by you, by what you think and intend or do as a therapist, they feel contained by how contained you feel by your internal objects. Your theoretical understanding, your technical skill, your professional competence matter but little on that level of containment (which - certainly in Meltzer’s view - is what really matters, rather than, for example, ‘client motivation’, therapeutic orientation, feedback and reality testing or other ‘common factors’; when we invoke the usually amorphous notion of the ‘quality of the therapeutic relationship’, isn’t it possible that we are pointing towards what Meltzer is talking about ?).

What does that mean: feeling contained by my ‘internal objects’?

It means your sense of internal integration and your ideas about what constitutes an integrative process are manifest in and shaped by your blueprint of integration: the relationship of your internal parents, more generally: the landscape of your internal objects.

In simple terms it means: how do your internal mother and father get on ? How loving, creative, passionate, integrated is their relationship ? How split, conflicted, bickering, dis-integrated is their relationship ?

In modern analytic thought the image of the parental couple is an important, if not the important yardstick for the degree of integration in the patient’s personality (see david mann “The Erotic Relationship”). Jung’s thinking is very close to this, to him the hieros gamos, the internal marriage, was of utmost importance in the individuation process. Reich did not formulate internal integration in terms of Mummy and Daddy, but in terms of body and mind, that to him was the yardstick of integration. Freud was too pessimistic to really have a blueprint, let alone yardstick for integration.

The thing about the internal parental couple is: just as with your real parents, you are landed with them. You can’t command them to get on with each other, much as you would like to knock their heads together and get them to have the perfect relationship, so that you as the child end up getting proper love and attention. What Jung said about complexes in general, applies just as much to the ‘internal parental couple: we don’t have them, they have us. That means, integration is not something we primarily DO, but something we find or don’t find ourselves in. Integration or dis-integration is something we discover, recognise, suffer. It’s not something we can will into being.

This balance between doing or achieving integration on the one hand, and suffering or surrendering to it on the other is crucial. There is what in archetypal terms we might call an Apollonian route to integration (through insight, will, discipline, pulling the fragments together) and there is an Dionysian route to integration (through surrendering to the fragmentation that always already is): here integration is a spontaneous process out of necessary dis-integration.

So far psychotherapy integration has rather been dominated by the Apollonian style. In the terms of this conference, so far we’ve seen more of the Trojan war of integration than of the Odyssey. The Odyssey is the post-heroic journey of dis-integration and initiation. There is a tendency towards a forced ‘false’ kind of integration to avoid dis-integration (in line with our cultural addiction to Apollonian light and quiet unity). That always ends in monopolising take-over bids which wreck the very plurality required for integration where we want to do justice to each perspective on its own terms rather than subsuming other people’s ideas under my paradigm.

In order to do justice to Apollonian AND Dionysian styles of integration, this talk needs to emphasise and is rooted in the value of dis-integration. I’m trying to do the pretty impossible job of singing the praises of Dionysian dis-integration whilst firmly maintaining an holistic perspective. No more or less impossible than psychotherapy itself.

An holistic notion of dis-integration ...

with each client

the different theories offer various perspectives on the state of dis-integration which the client/patient brings to therapy and which brings the client to therapy

in simple terms: body, emotion, mind and spirit seem to function as unrelated (dissociated) or conflicting (repressed) fragments, leading to the subjective experience of being at war with oneself, not loving oneself, being driven, repetitive patterns out of control; Wilber’s ‘European Split’

to the field as a whole

Followers of Freud, Reich and Jung know relatively little of each other.

psychotherapy as a field is similarly fragmented, conflicted, dis-integrated, and is therefore as much a symptom and a reflection of modern Western dis-integration as it is an attempted response to it. The field of psychotherapy reflects the psyche of its clients and practitioners - it’s a collective parallel process.

In terms of their personal relationships, the historical development of their teaching into schools, in terms of the insularity of these schools, and in terms of the parental landsacpe they form in each of us, they make a pretty dis-integrated triangle.

Without awareness of that triangle between Freud, Reich & Jung, as dis-integrated as it is, we cannot develop an holistic perspective. Without an holistic perspective we cannot develop integrative practice.

My suggestion is that an holistic perspective on psychotherapy requires the integration of at least these three of our therapeutic ancestors Freud, Reich & Jung: each with their respective strengths and weaknesses. But if we take their teaching as giving us a model of how to achieve integration, we’re in exclusive heroic mode. So I would like to appreciate the contribution of these three geniuses not as heroes of integration, but as experts of dis-integration. We can see and use each of our forefathers as showing us the recipe for overcoming dis-integration. Or we can see them as sensitisers to dis-integration.

Each of our forefathers offers a particular, precious and incisive, but also partial and incomplete perspective on the dis-integration of modern Western human beings. That gives each of them a unique capacity to deepen our sensitivity to certain aspects of dis-integration, and also certain shadow aspects which can exacerbate our own obliviousness to other aspects.

Freud had a particular sensitivity to the denied conflictedness of the mind, Reich to the denied body, and Jung to the denied potential wholeness.

In oversimplified terms we can say that each becomes a champion (self-elected) of one of the dissociated, conflicted fragments.

Freud, Reich, Jung as fantasies, even if historically accurately perceived as the people they were, are nevertheless fantasies championing archetypal aspects of our psyche and our own sense of dis-integration / wholeness.

FREUD:

... becomes the champion of (a particular condition of) the mind: the vicissitudes of the mind when operating within repression, within European body/mind split

Strengths (we derive from this)

  • appreciation of the depth of the split (irreconcilability - hopelessness, despair, illusion and self-deception - depressive position)
  • the process of symbolisation and verbalisation = the containing function of the mind
  • ... is a bitter, reductionist patriarch trapped in split without any sense of the feminine

Weaknesses

  • pessimistic outlook (Thanatos) - years with cancer of the jaw
  • reductionism / dualistic & hierarchical medical model assumptions
  • technique and meta-psychology tend to re-inforce split

REICH:

... becomes the champion of the self-regulating, energetic wisdom of the ‘animal’ body as the redeemer of European body/mind split

Strengths (we derive from this)

  • dynamic = focus on experience/sensation,liberate primitive affect
  • systematic = character structure
  • holistic meta-psychology (functionalism)
  • political, awareness of patriarchy

... literal, narcissistic, isolated medical

Weaknesses

  • emphasis on catharsis - no containment
  • literal + concrete (no fantasy, no inner r’ship)
  • unrelational (no ct.)

JUNG:

becomes the champion of spirit / soul transcending the split

Strengths (we derive from this)

  • implies self-organising tendency in transcendental function of the psyche (instinct towards individuation)
  • transpersonal Self (split not resolvable without that = something beyond Ego versus Id)
  • appreciation of pre-egoic magical and mythological consciousness and collective unconscious

omnipotent introverted individualist(?)

Weaknesses

  • interpersonal dimension weak
  • overemphasis on image/mind - education (analytical psychology) confuse soul & spirit
  • no medical model - clinically imprecise - avoid experience of primitive tr. + ct./sex

Examples from practice:

  • define habitual position = habitual countertransference = proactive countertransference
  • how do Freud, Reich, Jung function in the psyche of these practitioners ?
  • make clear relational deficit generally, but also specific to each (how did they fail the client?); how did it re-inforce dis-integration ?

Frank (Jungian):

  • perceptive, sharp, serious, incisive, honest, deep, isolated man, capable of deep empathy, but frightened of deep contact and intimacy
  • in his own process he made sense and felt contained by Jungian theory
  • his acuteness of perception had forced him into admitting the strength of parental aspects of transference - so he read and assimilated Casement, Bollas, etc
  • very clear in terms of vision + images - could describe complexes in terms of figures and narrative
  • the clearer he and the client became about this, the stronger and more urgent the feeling - diverted transference on others or education
  • Habitual countertransference (general): is frightened of and excludes primitive affect, spontaneous, pre- or non-verbal, heat of longing or hostility, body/animal
  • re-inforce dis-integration (specific examples):
  • mirrors client’s fear + anxiety about affect, re-enacts client’s mother

Martin (psychodynamic-integrative): extreme example:

  • called himself integrative, but predominant orientation amorphous psychodynamic, in analysis with famous analyst, background nurse and social worker,
  • difficult SV as he only wanted to report client.’s progress, get congratulation and affirmation (severe self-doubt); occasionally wanted input on how to phrase interpretations, basically to extract client.’s compliance when there was conflict in working alliance
  • blaming the client for all misunderstanding and conflict
  • theoretical acknowledgement of countertransference in principle, but not at all in practice
  • no distinction habitual. countertransference - parallel process
  • dogmatic - no sense that conflict in therapeutic. relationship IS the unconscious process
  • superior doctor position, no spontaneous or emergent process, no reflection on timing or effect of interpretation, haphazard

Pauline (body/breathing):

  • very experienced humanistic therapist working for more than 12 years; profound understanding of energetic/physical aspects of conflict (main feelings which client is resisting both internally and in transference, main physical correlation where is that conflict experienced in the body)
  • clear perception of client fear of unconscious (physically and emotionally)
  • warm, empathic, occasionally self-disclosing
  • deep understating of five parallel relationship, too early insight exacerbates conflict and gets defended against, clear perception of rationalisation and resonance with power of affect which client defends against made her impatient, inclined to use powerful breathing techniques to short-circuit ‘resistance’ - client. were usually fascinated and grateful, saw her as a body magician, but did not stay longer than 6 months (when techniques were exhausted and deeper relational fear and ambivalence manifested)
  • habitual. ct: narcissism strengthened through magical transference. = she didn’t work with that; mothering her mother’s failing body through fathering impatience, narc. Oedipal inflation, not in touch with own woundedness (in principle, but not in the contact with client), pre-emptive
  • re-inforces dis-integration:

You can see from these examples that it is possible to practice each approach in such a way that it also feeds and re-inforces dis-integration, and re-enacts and perpetuates internal conflict

Application of triangle:

in the triangle Freud, Reich, Jung, the shadow of each need the other two to compensate, and the shared blind spots of each two need the third for integration

“In my fantasy of them as therapists to each other, I have pictured Jung saving Reich from his unsuccessful struggles with the world, and I have seen Reich breaking through the sophisticates walls of distrust that protected Jung from more intimate contact with men.”

Integration:

unless an integrative approach includes attention to the body and the mind and the soul and spirit (on their own terms), it will be difficult to attend to the intricate nature and quality of the client’s experience of dis-integration, and the relationship of those fragments with each other in the client’s inner world and manifested in the relationship

  • any therapeutic tool/technique, concept/model, meta-psychological belief can become countertherapeutic (in client and/or therapist), i.e. vehicle for re-enactment
  • watch for how it happens rather than whether it happens
  • in the therapist ‘integrative’ becomes a defence against dis-integration versus therapeutic need for client to dis-integrate, and therefore for relationship and therapist to dis-integrate (therapist gets constructed as an object by client’s unconscious AND de-constructed)
  • integrative and holistic defence against pluralistic polytheism, fragmentation (otherwise they become ‘ego-projects’ of making whole
  • holistic conception of client’s dis-integration:
  • intra-psychic conflict/dissociation (subjective) - energetic, relational manifestation = habitual body/mind condition
  • dis-integration is a body/mind phenomenon with conflict ON EACH and BETWEEN EACH level (parallel process), i.e.:
  • physiological, vegetative, neuro-anatomical, muscular + movement, sensation, feelings + emotions, fantasies + images, thoughts and belief systems, meta-level + paradigm, collective and transpersonal
  • parallels between conflict in illness, in family, in acorn
  • wounded healer: you own your own inherited dis-integration and offer for it to be re-stimulated and exacerbated in relationship to client, with the inherent possibility and privilege of participating in and re-experiencing integrative shifts when and as they occur
  • triangle needs a 4th point (pyramid, held together by relationship (object relations, intersubjective) - but again there are various kinds and myths of therapeutic relationship, as seen from each corner
  • integrative attempts from any corner become take-over bids, do justice to each corner on its own terms

What is ‘holism’?

holism as a notion was first used in the 1920’s nowadays it covers a multitude of sins, it’s a fashion term increasingly signifying nothing. Wilber defined it usefully in Sex, Spirituality, Ecology: matter - life - mind physio, bio, noo; Koestler holon = whole AND part; within each level heterarchy, between levels = hierarchy, heaps not wholes

systems, chaos and complexity theory have made holism more concrete and tangible; giving it more shape and conceptual clarity

self-regulation, self-organisation, emergent process versus established structure new structure

a system can show the tendency for its constituent parts and fragments to organise themselves into an integrated whole which is larger than the sum of its parts

this self-organising tendency can often be seen most clearly as coming into operation at the edge of chaos and dis-integration when a radically new, more complex and differentiated structure emerges in a quantum leap, just when the established structure is going to pieces

this is the other half of entropy (the universe running itself down - this is the universe building itself up)

holons within holons - Wilber joke

this is inherently a relational theory (how is it organised = what are the relationships between parts ? how integrated - dis-integrated is a relational question

parallel process: how does dis-integration on one level get repeated, reflected on the deeper, higher, more embracing level ?I want to develop a differentiated sense and concept of the the intricacy and fullness of dis-integration. There’s the labour of gathering the fragments, and there’s the non-labour of surrendering to them. There’s the heroic overcoming of fragmentation and the victim’s denial of the hope/possibility for integration.

a conception which does justice to each of the fragments/parts on its own terms

There is no integration without full and detailed embracing of dis-integration.

 

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